The Rational Egoist

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11/17/2003

Collaboration Between Hussein and Bin Laden is Clear [Posts] — Steve Giardina @ 1:53 pm

According to this extensive intelligence report, the collaboration between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden is quite clear.

Usama bin Laden (search) and Saddam Hussein (search) had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, Al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for Al Qaeda - perhaps even for Mohamed Atta - according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by The Weekly Standard.

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith (search) to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level Al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America’s most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo, which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points, Iraq-Al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which in some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.

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But there can no longer be any serious argument about whether Saddam Hussein’s Iraq worked with Usama bin Laden and Al Qaeda to plot against Americans.

It seems pretty clear to me that Bin Laden and Hussein have worked together in the past and have had strong motivations to do so. While I still believe that countries like Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia are bigger threats, however, this clearly justifies the case for going to war with Iraq as such. I just disagree about WHEN we should have taken out Iraq.

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  1. Look before you leap Steve

    http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46460-2003Nov15.html

    wait till the dust settles before you start posting on hogwash like this.

    Comment by name 11/17/2003 @ 10:44 pm

  2. Point taken, but it’s inaccurate to refer to it as “hogwash.” No one has made the claim that the information of this memo is inaccurate. The claim that has been made is that no official conclusions have been made from the data. I think the data speaks for itself here.

    For future reference, refrain from insulting me when you post. The point of the comments aspect is to encourage rational discussion, not vicious assaults.

    Comment by 11/18/2003 @ 12:43 pm

  3. “News reports that the Defense Department recently confirmed new information with respect to contacts between al-Qaida and Iraq in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee are inaccurate.”

    The first sentence of the first link. So the claim IS made that the information is inaccurate. The whole thing just seems to convenient to me. Bush’s ratings are dropping because no WMD’s have been found, and all of a sudden this information comes to the political rescue? It’s hard to swallow.

    Comment by CZ 11/18/2003 @ 12:55 pm

  4. 1.Given that the WMD evidence that has caused problems was a result of Stovepiping by Rummy’s boys, and that this link reflects the same kind of stovepiping (except this time to the public)… My suspicion is you are right, CZ

    2.STEVE…I will watch my mouth…HOwever, if you are truelly committeed to “rational dialogue"…then I suggest you either more selectively choose the articles evidence you post to ensure an agreeable and high standard of evidence, or, if you prefer a more speculative approach, based on earlier reports, then you might as well go the distance, and include a plurality of sources, even if it doesnt include the Jordan Times, Al Jazeera, etc… either way, it makes sense to make a choice

    Comment by 11/18/2003 @ 2:56 pm

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